INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG) Minutes of the September 2, 2004 IESG Teleconference Reported by: Amy Vezza, IETF Secretariat ATTENDEES ------------------ Harald Alvestrand / Cisco Rob Austein / ISC (IAB Liaison) Steve Bellovin / AT&T Steve Conte / ICANN (IANA) Michelle Cotton / ICANN (IANA) Leslie Daigle / Verisign (IAB) Bill Fenner / AT&T Barbara Fuller / IETF Secretariat Ted Hardie / Qualcomm, Inc. Scott Hollenbeck / VeriSign Russ Housley / Vigil Security, LLC David Kessens / Nokia Allison Mankin / Bell Labs, Lucent Thomas Narten / IBM Jon Peterson / NeuStar, Inc. Joyce K. Reynolds / ISI (RFC Editor) Amy Vezza / IETF Secretariat Bert Wijnen / Lucent Alex Zinin / Alcatel REGRETS ------------ Aaron Falk / ISI (RFC Editor) Dinara Suleymanova / IETF Secretariat Margaret Wasserman / ThingMagic MINUTES --------------- 1. Administrivia 1.1 Approval of the Minutes The minutes of the August 19, 2004 Teleconference were approved. The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives. 1.2 Documents Approved Since the August 19, 2004 IESG Teleconference 1.2.1 Protocol Actions o draft-ietf-snmpconf-pm-15.txt (Proposed Standard) o draft-ietf-aaa-diameter-mobileip-20.txt (Proposed Standard) o draft-ietf-mboned-ssm232-08.txt (BCP) o draft-ietf-nat-natmib-09.txt (Proposed Standard) o draft-ietf-ips-iscsi-slp-09.txt (Proposed Standard) o draft-ietf-mboned-msdp-deploy-06.txt (BCP) o draft-ietf-ipv6-scoping-arch-02.txt (Proposed Standard) o draft-ietf-simple-iscomposing-03.txt (Proposed Standard) 1.2.2 Document Actions o draft-ietf-l3vpn-requirements-02.txt (Informational RFC) o draft-ietf-ipv6-node-requirements-11.txt (Informational RFC) o draft-ietf-seamoby-ctp-11.txt (Experimental RFC) o draft-ietf-v6ops-application-transition-03.txt (Informational RFC) o draft-walker-ieee802-req-04.txt (Informational RFC) o draft-motonori-dualstack-smtp-requirement-01.txt (Informational RFC) 1.3 Review of Action Items DONE: o Harald Alvestrand, with others as required, to have a discussion with Alex Zinin regarding the time commitment and role of a NomCom liaison. DELETED: NONE IN PROGRESS: o David Kessens, Steve Bellovin, and Alex Zinin to discuss a charter for a new Operations and Management Area working group for OPSEC. o Bill Fenner to determine with WG chairs whether a liaison with OIF is desirable, and will inform the IAB of the decision. o Applications ADs to evaluate the situation with regards to MIME type review, and see how we can ensure the review turnaround times specified in the MIME registration procedures. o Allison Mankin and Thomas Narten to compose a message for the IESG and IAB related to 3GPP's Release 6 publication deadline and expedited documents. o Harald Alvestrand to clarify what actions are needed to enforce the new boilerplate. August 19, 2004 is the proposed deadline for accepting I-Ds with old boilerplates. All I-Ds submitted after this date require the use of the new boilerplate. o Allison Mankin will encourage Dave Meyer to go forward with his I-D on IETF minutes, and will suggest some IESG points for it. o The Secretariat to add Aaron Falk to the iesg@ietf.org mailing list and to teleconference participation materials. o Margaret Wasserman to take the lead in drafting a description of the positions to be filled by the NomCom. Allison Mankin, Thomas Narten, and Alex Zinin will do an initial review; the document should be ready to be reviewed by the IESG before the next teleconference (09/02/2004). o Bert Wijnen to collect IESG and IANA feedback on openBSD/carp IANA assignments and send the collective feedback to the IAB. NEW: o Ted Hardie, Bill Fenner, and Thomas Narten will draft a policy on "placeholder" I-Ds in reference to I-D submissions prior to IETF meetings, and will draft words for reminders the Secretariat sends. 1.4 Review of Projects 2. Protocol Actions 2.1 WG Submissions 2.1.1 New Item o draft-ietf-ipoib-ip-over-infiniband-07.txt - 1 of 8 Transmission of IP over InfiniBand (Proposed Standard) Token: Margaret Wasserman The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Steve Bellovin, Ted Hardie, Scott Hollenbeck, Russ Housley, David Kessens, and Thomas Narten.* o draft-ietf-mmusic-sdp-srcfilter-06.txt - 2 of 8 Session Description Protocol (SDP) Source Filters (Proposed Standard) Token: Jon Peterson The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Harald Alvestrand, Steve Bellovin, Bill Fenner, Allison Mankin, and Bert Wijnen.* o draft-ietf-simple-event-list-05.txt - 3 of 8 A Session Initiation Protocol (SIP) Event Notification Extension for Resource Lists (Proposed Standard) Token: Allison Mankin The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Steve Bellovin, Scott Hollenbeck, and Russ Housley.* o draft-ietf-enum-msg-02.txt - 4 of 8 IANA Registration for ENUMservices email, fax, mms, ems and sms (Proposed Standard) Token: Allison Mankin The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Harald Alvestrand, Ted Hardie, Jon Peterson.* o draft-ietf-enum-webft-01.txt - 5 of 8 IANA Registration for ENUMservices web and ft (Proposed Standard) Token: Allison Mankin The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to be prepared by Allison Mankin. The Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action Announcement that includes the RFC Editor Note. o draft-holbrook-idmr-igmpv3-ssm-07.txt - 6 of 8 Using IGMPv3 and MLDv2 For Source-Specific Multicast (Proposed Standard) Token: Margaret Wasserman The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Russ Housley.* o draft-ietf-rohc-udp-lite-04.txt - 7 of 8 RObust Header Compression (ROHC):Profiles for UDP-Lite (Proposed Standard) Token: Allison Mankin The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to be prepared by Allison Mankin. The Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action Announcement that includes the RFC Editor Note. o draft-ietf-ips-iscsi-name-ext-05.txt - 8 of 8 T11 Network Address Authority (NAA) naming format for iSCSI Node Names (Proposed Standard) Token: Allison Mankin The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to be prepared by Allison Mankin. The Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action Announcement that includes the RFC Editor Note. 2.1.2 Returning Item o draft-ietf-sigtran-m2pa-12.txt - 1 of 3 Signaling System 7 (SS7) Message Transfer Part 2 (MTP2) - User Peer-to-Peer Adaptation Layer (M2PA) (Proposed Standard) Token: Jon Peterson The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Steve Bellovin.* o draft-ietf-ipsec-ikev2-15.txt - 2 of 3 Internet Key Exchange (IKEv2) Protocol (Proposed Standard) Token: Russ Housley The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Margaret Wasserman.* o draft-ietf-opes-ocp-core-05.txt - 3 of 3 OPES Callout Protocol Core (Proposed Standard) Token: Ted Hardie The document was deferred to the next teleconference (09/16/2004) by Steve Bellovin. 2.2 Individual Submissions 2.2.1 New Item NONE 2.2.2 Returning Item NONE 3. Document Actions 3.1 WG Submissions 3.1.1 New Item o draft-ietf-msec-tesla-intro-03.txt - 1 of 1 TESLA: Multicast Source Authentication Transform Introduction (Informational) Token: Russ Housley The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Ted Hardie.* 3.1.2 Returning Item NONE 3.2 Individual Submissions Via AD 3.2.1 New Item o draft-hoschka-smil-media-type-12.txt - 1 of 1 The application/smil and application/smil+xml Media Types (Informational) Token: Ted Hardie The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Steve Bellovin and Russ Housley.* 3.2.2 Returning Item NONE 3.3 Individual Submissions Via RFC Editor 3.3.1 New Item o draft-ietf-ngtrans-isatap-22.txt - 1 of 2 Intra-Site Automatic Tunnel Addressing Protocol (ISATAP) (Experimental) Token: David Kessens The IESG has no problem with the RFC Editor publishing this document. The Secretariat will send a standard "no problem" message to the RFC Editor that includes an IESG Note to be prepared by David Kessens. o draft-aboulmagd-trtcm-inprofile-01.txt - 2 of 2 Two Rate Three Color Marker for Differentiated Services (Informational) Token: Jon Peterson The IESG has no problem with the RFC Editor publishing this document. The Secretariat will send a standard "no problem" message to the RFC Editor that includes an IESG Note to be prepared by Jon Peterson. 3.3.2 Returning Item NONE 4. Working Group Actions 4.1 WG Creation 4.1.1 Proposed for IETF Review o Integrated Security Model for SNMP (isms) - 1 of 1 Token: Steve Bellovin The IESG approved the draft WG charter for IETF review pending new text for the charter and the addition of proposed working group chairs, to be provided by Bert Wijnen. The Secretariat will send a WG Review announcement, and a separate message to new-work@ietf.org. The Secretariat will place the WG on the agenda for the next IESG Teleconference (09/16/2004). 4.1.2 Proposed for Approval NONE 4.2 WG Rechartering 4.2.1 Under evaluation for IETF Review NONE 4.2.2 Proposed for Approval NONE 5. Working Group News We Can Use 6. IAB News We Can Use 7. Management Issues 7.1 Topic: Confirm Open IESG Positions for 2005 NomCom (Margaret Wasserman) The management issue was discussed. The IESG reviewed the list of open positions and approved it for forwarding the list to the NomCom. 7.2 Management Item timing variance for Lemonade Interim Meeting (Ted Hardie) The management issue was discussed. The IESG had no objection to granting the variance for the Lemonade Interim Meeting. 7.3 Expert for RFC 3761 (Allison Mankin) The management issue was discussed. The IESG decided that the primary RFC 3761 Expert would be the RIPE NCC Technical Contact for e164.arpa, with Rob Austein as secondary contact (but with both on the mailing list). 7.4 Teleconference Schedule for November/December 2004(Harald Alvestrand) The management issue was discussed. The IESG decided to hold teleconferences on November 18, December 2, and December 16. 7.5 Making the IESG Teleconference agenda public (Harald Alvestrand) The management issue was discussed. The IESG decided to make the IESG Teleconference agenda public. 7.6 Update of version -00 drafts just prior to the IETF meetings (Harald Alvestrand) The management issue was discussed. The IESG decided that new version -00 drafts are allowed to be updated before the -0n deadline. Ted Hardie, Bill Fenner, and Thomas Narten will draft a policy on "placeholder I-Ds," and will draft words for reminders the Secretariat sends. At the December 2, 2004 IESG Teleconference, the IESG will look at the submission statistics for the period of time before the Washington DC IETF meeting and evaluate the situation. Action item: Ted Hardie, Bill Fenner, and Thomas Narten will draft a policy on "placeholder I-Ds," and will draft words for reminders the Secretariat sends. ---------------------------------------- * Please see the ID Tracker (https://datatracker.ietf.org/public/pidtracker.cgi) for details on documents that are under discussion by the IESG.