WEBVTT 00:00.000 --> 00:09.840 Thank you all for being here. 00:09.840 --> 00:17.160 I would like to point out one last time that we have talked a list of lightning sessions 00:17.160 --> 00:21.480 at 1830, so this is after this talk. 00:21.480 --> 00:28.000 You can still submit a lightning talk proposal for a talk that takes about five minutes. 00:28.000 --> 00:35.120 If you want to submit your talk, you can go to the Python Devroom first-end page. 00:35.120 --> 00:39.040 The last slot for today is the lightning talk session. 00:39.040 --> 00:43.360 If you click on it and the talk description, you will find the link where you can submit 00:43.360 --> 00:46.040 lightning talks. 00:46.040 --> 00:47.040 Thank you so much. 00:47.040 --> 00:52.920 And now it's up to you to talk about software and the using Python. 00:52.920 --> 00:53.920 Yes. 00:53.920 --> 00:58.920 If you want one more argument to do a lightning talk, I think here is the best place in the 00:58.920 --> 00:59.920 room. 00:59.920 --> 01:01.920 You have fresh air. 01:01.920 --> 01:05.920 You should come here. 01:05.920 --> 01:14.920 So everybody, my name is Manuel and I will talk about last suite. 01:14.920 --> 01:18.920 First disclaimer, I don't have slides. 01:18.920 --> 01:22.920 This is something I really hate to do. 01:22.920 --> 01:26.920 So I will use the Docs application. 01:26.920 --> 01:31.920 This is one of the applications we are developing in last suite. 01:31.920 --> 01:43.920 If you want to join and follow the presentation on Docs with me, you can scan this QR code. 01:43.920 --> 01:47.920 My presentation contains a lot of links. 01:47.920 --> 01:53.920 So you will have the links with you after the presentation. 01:53.920 --> 01:58.920 And at the end, you will play with Docs. 01:58.920 --> 02:07.920 I will switch in editing mode and you can modify everything. 02:07.920 --> 02:11.920 So who is behind the last suite? 02:11.920 --> 02:18.920 So last suite is a project from the French government. 02:18.920 --> 02:25.920 The French digital agency is doing this suite. 02:25.920 --> 02:31.920 It's called the Dynamics, the Direction and Terministial of the Dynamics. 02:31.920 --> 02:40.920 You have all the source code on the suite numeric organization on GitHub.com. 02:40.920 --> 02:45.920 So you can start looking at what we are doing. 02:45.920 --> 02:51.920 So last suite is a collection of digital formats. 02:51.920 --> 02:54.920 It's plenty of applications. 02:54.920 --> 03:01.920 But there's a bit of design for public sector for civil servants. 03:01.920 --> 03:14.920 And we also, when we develop it, think about to be reused by other people on the public sector. 03:14.920 --> 03:21.920 Like association or of companies. 03:21.920 --> 03:23.920 So it's an open ecosystem. 03:23.920 --> 03:30.920 We have a lot of applications that has been developed first for civil servants. 03:30.920 --> 03:37.920 This is the list of the applications available in the last suite project. 03:37.920 --> 03:41.920 So we have an email application that is just open exchange. 03:41.920 --> 03:46.920 We have a support application called messages. 03:46.920 --> 03:50.920 And I don't know if people came to the presentation. 03:50.920 --> 03:52.920 We have to know about messages. 03:52.920 --> 03:58.920 But it's, we want to break free high map. 03:58.920 --> 04:02.920 We are not using high map in this project. 04:02.920 --> 04:05.920 The chat application is a chat. 04:05.920 --> 04:07.920 We have a video conferencing. 04:07.920 --> 04:09.920 The nickname is Meet. 04:09.920 --> 04:11.920 The notes, Wiki. 04:11.920 --> 04:12.920 So it's this one. 04:12.920 --> 04:13.920 It's called Docs. 04:14.920 --> 04:15.920 Five sharing. 04:15.920 --> 04:19.920 So we bring that a lot to find a name. 04:19.920 --> 04:21.920 It's called Drive. 04:21.920 --> 04:23.920 A spreadsheet application. 04:23.920 --> 04:25.920 Which is Greece. 04:25.920 --> 04:26.920 We have another one. 04:26.920 --> 04:27.920 Calc. 04:27.920 --> 04:29.920 But it's more prototype. 04:29.920 --> 04:31.920 And we don't know if you will. 04:31.920 --> 04:32.920 Keep it. 04:32.920 --> 04:33.920 Chatbot. 04:33.920 --> 04:36.920 So an AI conversation. 04:36.920 --> 04:37.920 An AI agent. 04:37.920 --> 04:40.920 And the name is Conversation. 04:40.920 --> 04:42.920 And there are other applications. 04:42.920 --> 04:44.920 But we will develop soon. 04:44.920 --> 04:46.920 Or under development. 04:46.920 --> 04:48.920 Like contacts, groups. 04:48.920 --> 04:51.920 And Canada. 04:51.920 --> 04:54.920 So all of this application. 04:54.920 --> 04:56.920 Our standard application. 04:56.920 --> 04:58.920 You can use only one. 04:58.920 --> 05:01.920 You can use all of them. 05:01.920 --> 05:03.920 You can deploy one. 05:03.920 --> 05:05.920 You can deploy all. 05:05.920 --> 05:07.920 Just two or three. 05:07.920 --> 05:12.920 And we are thinking about a user centric. 05:12.920 --> 05:13.920 Approach. 05:13.920 --> 05:17.920 So for this, we are using another project. 05:17.920 --> 05:19.920 From the beginning. 05:19.920 --> 05:21.920 But bigger. 05:21.920 --> 05:23.920 But it's called ProConnect. 05:23.920 --> 05:28.920 Basically, it's our IDC provider. 05:28.920 --> 05:31.920 But it allows cooperation. 05:32.920 --> 05:35.920 In this state. 05:35.920 --> 05:38.920 But also with private companies. 05:38.920 --> 05:43.920 If a civil servant need to do a project with someone else. 05:43.920 --> 05:46.920 Outside the administration. 05:46.920 --> 05:51.920 They can connect each other using ProConnect. 05:51.920 --> 05:56.920 So are we doing it? 05:56.920 --> 05:59.920 First of all, we choose a license. 05:59.920 --> 06:02.920 We can debate about this choice. 06:02.920 --> 06:05.920 But we chose an IDC. 06:05.920 --> 06:10.920 Because we want everybody to use it. 06:10.920 --> 06:12.920 We want it secure. 06:12.920 --> 06:14.920 So for each application. 06:14.920 --> 06:16.920 We have a big bunty. 06:16.920 --> 06:17.920 Hop-in. 06:17.920 --> 06:19.920 Some are in public. 06:19.920 --> 06:21.920 Over our private. 06:21.920 --> 06:25.920 If you want to take time on this. 06:25.920 --> 06:27.920 You have to go to, yes we are. 06:28.920 --> 06:31.920 And we have to use a cloud provider. 06:31.920 --> 06:34.920 But it's a technical certification. 06:34.920 --> 06:37.920 So it's specific to the. 06:37.920 --> 06:39.920 The French. 06:39.920 --> 06:41.920 And time to time. 06:41.920 --> 06:43.920 Many time by us. 06:43.920 --> 06:45.920 We are doing security audit. 06:45.920 --> 06:48.920 By external. 06:49.920 --> 06:51.920 Companies. 06:51.920 --> 06:54.920 So they are auditing the application. 06:54.920 --> 06:56.920 So the. 06:56.920 --> 06:58.920 The open source application. 06:58.920 --> 07:00.920 But also our infrastructure. 07:00.920 --> 07:03.920 This part is not open source. 07:03.920 --> 07:06.920 We are not building alone. 07:06.920 --> 07:08.920 All of this application. 07:08.920 --> 07:11.920 It's more a European. 07:12.920 --> 07:15.920 So it's built with other countries. 07:15.920 --> 07:18.920 The German, the Netherlands, the Italy. 07:18.920 --> 07:20.920 A European. 07:20.920 --> 07:21.920 Digital infrastructure. 07:21.920 --> 07:23.920 It's more a European project. 07:23.920 --> 07:26.920 So it's built with other countries. 07:26.920 --> 07:29.920 The German, the Netherlands. 07:29.920 --> 07:31.920 The Italy. 07:31.920 --> 07:32.920 A European. 07:32.920 --> 07:34.920 Digital infrastructure. 07:34.920 --> 07:35.920 Consortium was created. 07:35.920 --> 07:36.920 Also. 07:36.920 --> 07:37.920 To help. 07:37.920 --> 07:39.920 Companies. 07:40.920 --> 07:43.920 To make the transition from. 07:43.920 --> 07:44.920 Companies like. 07:44.920 --> 07:45.920 Microsoft. 07:45.920 --> 07:46.920 Good, etc. 07:46.920 --> 07:48.920 To. 07:48.920 --> 07:49.920 To. 07:49.920 --> 07:51.920 Open source and. 07:51.920 --> 07:52.920 Surrey. 07:52.920 --> 07:54.920 Uh, solution. 07:54.920 --> 07:55.920 We also try to. 07:55.920 --> 07:56.920 To build. 07:56.920 --> 07:57.920 A community. 07:57.920 --> 07:59.920 This project. 07:59.920 --> 08:00.920 Docs. 08:00.920 --> 08:02.920 As more than 50 stars on. 08:02.920 --> 08:03.920 On. 08:03.920 --> 08:04.920 On GitHub. 08:04.920 --> 08:06.920 And I think what is. 08:07.920 --> 08:10.920 Problem is the most important for you today. 08:10.920 --> 08:13.920 It's that we are contributing back. 08:13.920 --> 08:16.920 To all the libraries and project. 08:16.920 --> 08:17.920 We are using. 08:17.920 --> 08:20.920 Because every application is not. 08:20.920 --> 08:22.920 Uh, from scratch. 08:22.920 --> 08:25.920 We try to reuse to identify. 08:25.920 --> 08:27.920 Uh, existing. 08:27.920 --> 08:28.920 Library. 08:28.920 --> 08:29.920 And we. 08:30.920 --> 08:31.920 We built. 08:31.920 --> 08:32.920 Uh. 08:32.920 --> 08:33.920 The application. 08:33.920 --> 08:34.920 Around. 08:34.920 --> 08:36.920 So for example for email. 08:36.920 --> 08:38.920 So basically is. 08:38.920 --> 08:39.920 Open exchange. 08:39.920 --> 08:41.920 We didn't change anything. 08:41.920 --> 08:42.920 But. 08:42.920 --> 08:44.920 Little bit the look and feel. 08:44.920 --> 08:45.920 Uh. 08:45.920 --> 08:46.920 Docs. 08:46.920 --> 08:47.920 It's. 08:47.920 --> 08:48.920 Black not. 08:48.920 --> 08:49.920 G.S. 08:49.920 --> 08:50.920 Black Navi. 08:50.920 --> 08:51.920 He's guys. 08:51.920 --> 08:52.920 On. 08:52.920 --> 08:55.920 Close mirror. 08:55.920 --> 08:56.920 We. 08:56.920 --> 08:57.920 He's. 08:57.920 --> 08:58.920 On. 08:58.920 --> 09:00.920 And projects. 09:00.920 --> 09:01.920 Uh. 09:01.920 --> 09:02.920 So we. 09:02.920 --> 09:04.920 We build the editor around. 09:04.920 --> 09:06.920 All of this managing permission. 09:06.920 --> 09:07.920 Exeter. 09:07.920 --> 09:08.920 Cal. 09:08.920 --> 09:09.920 Is using. 09:09.920 --> 09:10.920 The library. 09:10.920 --> 09:11.920 High on. 09:11.920 --> 09:12.920 Cal. 09:12.920 --> 09:13.920 Video. 09:13.920 --> 09:14.920 Uh. 09:14.920 --> 09:15.920 Is using the. 09:15.920 --> 09:16.920 Life kit. 09:16.920 --> 09:17.920 Library. 09:17.920 --> 09:18.920 The chatbot. 09:18.920 --> 09:19.920 Versa. 09:19.920 --> 09:20.920 Lie. 09:20.920 --> 09:21.920 Chat. 09:21.920 --> 09:22.920 This. 09:22.920 --> 09:24.920 On. 09:24.920 --> 09:25.920 On. 09:25.920 --> 09:26.920 On. 09:26.920 --> 09:27.920 Uh. 09:27.920 --> 09:29.920 All of this application are sharing. 09:29.920 --> 09:31.920 The same stack. 09:31.920 --> 09:34.920 And this is why I submitted this talk. 09:34.920 --> 09:35.920 Uh. 09:35.920 --> 09:36.920 Uh. 09:36.920 --> 09:38.920 Uh. 09:38.920 --> 09:39.920 Uh. 09:39.920 --> 09:41.920 So basically we are using. 09:41.920 --> 09:42.920 Uh. 09:42.920 --> 09:43.920 Uh. 09:43.920 --> 09:44.920 Uh. 09:44.920 --> 09:45.920 Uh. 09:45.920 --> 09:46.920 Uh. 09:46.920 --> 09:47.920 Uh. 09:47.920 --> 09:48.920 Uh. 09:48.920 --> 09:49.920 Uh. 09:49.920 --> 09:50.920 Uh. 09:50.920 --> 09:51.920 Uh. 09:51.920 --> 09:52.920 Uh. 09:52.920 --> 09:53.920 Uh. 09:53.920 --> 09:54.920 Uh. 09:54.920 --> 09:55.920 Uh. 09:55.920 --> 10:07.920 Uh. 10:07.920 --> 10:10.920 Uh. 10:10.920 --> 10:15.920 Uh. 10:15.920 --> 10:17.920 Uh. 10:17.920 --> 10:20.920 Uh. 10:20.920 --> 10:21.920 Uh. 10:21.920 --> 10:22.920 Uh. 10:22.920 --> 10:23.920 Uh. 10:23.920 --> 10:27.600 fresh look, but it's still working. 10:27.600 --> 10:30.280 Also, Django is not a one-man project. 10:30.280 --> 10:36.960 It's a community-divern project with a foundation, 10:36.960 --> 10:42.960 the tech decision in the remote category. 10:42.960 --> 10:45.320 The community is very kind. 10:45.320 --> 10:48.760 You can go chat with them. 10:48.760 --> 10:50.160 It's a really good project. 10:50.160 --> 10:53.920 So for all the applications, we have 10:53.920 --> 10:57.840 we expose an IPI using Django and Django rest from work. 10:57.840 --> 11:04.800 So here are all the applications using this backend. 11:04.800 --> 11:07.920 We put on it Django configurations. 11:07.920 --> 11:12.720 So we can give one configuration by everyone now. 11:12.720 --> 11:17.520 Everything is fully configurable using environment variables. 11:17.520 --> 11:21.280 For async tasks, we are using Siri. 11:21.280 --> 11:25.520 We are looking about the new task framework 11:25.520 --> 11:31.040 coming with Django 6. 11:31.040 --> 11:35.120 Django last week is our own library. 11:35.120 --> 11:37.040 So we have a lot of applications. 11:37.040 --> 11:41.360 We have to share a lot of code between all the applications. 11:41.360 --> 11:45.520 So we create it library Django last week. 11:45.600 --> 11:52.400 It's not only usable in an application in last week's project. 11:52.400 --> 11:57.120 If you need some feature around how I do see, 11:57.120 --> 11:59.080 we are using modiawe. 11:59.080 --> 12:05.080 I do see the library, but we have some of a feature. 12:05.080 --> 12:09.400 Like resource server, say, and plug-in. 12:09.400 --> 12:13.960 If you need solution about malware detection, 12:13.960 --> 12:17.000 if you have a plug-in application, you want to be sure 12:17.000 --> 12:19.880 that your product file is safe. 12:19.880 --> 12:21.960 You can use this part. 12:21.960 --> 12:26.920 We have integration with some marketing tools, 12:26.920 --> 12:30.760 a lot of tooling. 12:30.760 --> 12:35.920 We also have design system. 12:35.920 --> 12:38.680 So this part is React. 12:38.680 --> 12:42.160 So the code name is UIKit. 12:42.160 --> 12:47.160 So it's React components coming to all of the project, 12:47.160 --> 12:49.920 which is easily customizable. 12:49.920 --> 12:52.560 So you can use it. 12:52.560 --> 12:57.920 You can use our design system without 12:57.920 --> 13:02.080 everything looking to the French government. 13:02.080 --> 13:07.360 But you have design system ready to be used. 13:07.360 --> 13:15.920 So we are not only releasing with an open source license. 13:15.920 --> 13:18.560 The application itself. 13:18.560 --> 13:25.520 We are also putting what we use to deploy in production. 13:25.520 --> 13:28.760 So the code you will see. 13:28.760 --> 13:31.920 The Docker images are all the same, 13:31.920 --> 13:35.120 but we are using ourself in production. 13:35.120 --> 13:37.040 There is nothing hide. 13:41.040 --> 13:47.400 So the images we are building are images. 13:47.400 --> 13:53.920 But we are looking to switch to this address images. 13:53.920 --> 13:59.400 We have security scan using trivia when the image is built. 13:59.400 --> 14:03.760 Then another one, when we want to deploy the application, 14:03.760 --> 14:05.560 using cyberwatch. 14:05.560 --> 14:13.880 And before going to production, every image is signed. 14:13.880 --> 14:18.080 So you can trust this images. 14:18.080 --> 14:21.160 I don't remember the name of the application. 14:21.160 --> 14:24.760 We used to sign the images. 14:24.760 --> 14:29.200 It's available on Docker Hub with always the same pattern. 14:29.200 --> 14:31.760 Last week's slash, the name of the application, 14:31.760 --> 14:34.760 dash, back end of front end. 14:34.760 --> 14:42.240 Also, the end chart to deploy on Kubernetes are available. 14:42.240 --> 14:47.480 For now, we are hosting them on GitHub pages. 14:47.480 --> 14:56.040 But soon, we will have our repository for images and chart. 14:56.040 --> 15:02.840 But not only as I say, not only the code or the Docker images 15:02.840 --> 15:08.160 are open source, all our process is also open source. 15:08.160 --> 15:14.160 And you can take some information, some ID. 15:14.160 --> 15:17.840 We are open to our feedback. 15:17.840 --> 15:21.640 So basically, we have run map. 15:21.640 --> 15:24.240 On this run map, we take a feature. 15:24.240 --> 15:25.920 We do user interviews. 15:25.960 --> 15:28.000 We've civil servants. 15:28.000 --> 15:34.440 And this is why civil servants are happy with last week, 15:34.440 --> 15:39.160 because we are building it an application for them. 15:39.160 --> 15:42.520 But he's working for them. 15:42.520 --> 15:47.200 And so the second step is user interviews when we 15:47.200 --> 15:52.040 plan using GitHub project. 15:52.040 --> 15:54.080 We do the design using Figma. 15:54.080 --> 15:56.560 So the Figma is public for every application. 15:56.560 --> 16:04.320 You can consider them when we start the development. 16:04.320 --> 16:07.920 We do user acceptance technique testing. 16:07.920 --> 16:11.720 So we have a pool of beta tester. 16:11.720 --> 16:16.200 But our volunteer can access the next project, 16:16.200 --> 16:18.880 the next version of each application. 16:18.880 --> 16:22.680 And say, OK, it's OK for us. 16:22.680 --> 16:23.800 The feature is cool. 16:23.800 --> 16:24.440 It's not cool. 16:24.440 --> 16:26.240 You should do that. 16:26.240 --> 16:30.880 We can start a femoral of your run mount from a pool 16:30.880 --> 16:34.360 request, adding your labelling it. 16:34.360 --> 16:38.200 And of course, over our run mount runs a production one. 16:38.200 --> 16:41.240 And then we do the deployment. 16:41.240 --> 16:44.800 The links are documentation, but how 16:44.800 --> 16:49.720 we do the deployment on the Kubernetes. 16:49.720 --> 16:51.520 Our challenge. 16:51.520 --> 16:55.280 So we have a lot of challenges. 16:55.280 --> 16:59.120 The first one is to have a community 16:59.120 --> 17:05.080 and making this community grow up. 17:05.080 --> 17:07.240 You can discuss. 17:07.240 --> 17:09.560 You can of course, open issues. 17:09.560 --> 17:12.400 Make a pool request. 17:12.400 --> 17:13.840 You can talk with us. 17:13.840 --> 17:17.120 We have on each red meat with a link 17:17.120 --> 17:24.600 to chat on metrics. 17:24.600 --> 17:30.880 And I try to be present to the question. 17:30.880 --> 17:34.880 Every up is a single application, as I already 17:34.880 --> 17:35.720 say. 17:35.720 --> 17:39.680 So we need to work on absent-European ability. 17:39.680 --> 17:44.960 And this is not so easy to do. 17:44.960 --> 17:47.960 We've got a lot of security concern. 17:47.960 --> 17:53.760 So the first approach we have is to use a resource server. 17:53.760 --> 17:59.280 If you have over ID, want to share with us something else, 17:59.280 --> 18:05.120 we would like we'll be happy to discuss with you. 18:05.120 --> 18:13.000 We also share our dev and look, so it's all our best 18:13.000 --> 18:20.120 practice around how we use gates, how we use Docker, 18:20.120 --> 18:22.880 how we use Django, et cetera. 18:26.600 --> 18:32.000 So it's the end of the global presentation. 18:32.000 --> 18:36.960 If you want to play with Docs, we can maybe 18:36.960 --> 18:38.880 take some questions. 18:38.880 --> 18:41.680 And in the same time, you can play with Docs. 18:41.680 --> 18:46.000 It's a kind of real-time demo. 18:46.000 --> 18:49.120 So Docs, it's not application. 18:49.120 --> 18:50.080 It's an editor. 18:50.080 --> 18:53.480 It's a collaborative application. 18:53.480 --> 19:00.480 Everyone in the room should be able to edit the document. 19:00.480 --> 19:01.160 I will switch. 19:12.360 --> 19:13.360 Part of the game. 19:19.360 --> 19:23.920 OK, so you can refresh your browser if you want. 19:23.920 --> 19:30.640 And so on this new on this Docs, you can edit everything. 19:30.640 --> 19:35.120 So I think we are between adults, 19:35.120 --> 19:38.240 be kind on this Docs. 19:38.240 --> 19:48.800 You can try to open things, I will switch to Docs. 19:48.800 --> 19:50.360 OK, so be kind. 19:56.360 --> 20:04.080 I can show you if you want the drive application. 20:04.080 --> 20:10.640 And I think we can take some questions. 20:10.640 --> 20:11.920 Thank you, Manuel, for your talk. 20:20.800 --> 20:25.760 So you showed, I have one question myself, if I can. 20:25.760 --> 20:28.960 You showed some flags at first, which 20:28.960 --> 20:32.240 seemed to imply that you work with different governments 20:32.240 --> 20:35.520 from all around Europe. 20:35.520 --> 20:40.320 But also, you do only the software development stuff. 20:40.320 --> 20:42.960 People still have to deploy your stuff. 20:42.960 --> 20:48.720 But if I would be like French, small village, 20:48.720 --> 20:52.160 and France, lots of small villages, 20:52.160 --> 20:56.360 do you expect every Mary to run their own meals ever? 20:56.360 --> 20:59.480 Thank you very much for your question, 20:59.480 --> 21:02.040 because I miss something. 21:02.040 --> 21:09.000 So last week, it's a project hosted by the dean. 21:09.000 --> 21:14.520 We can only address civil servants, 21:14.520 --> 21:17.040 working in a ministry. 21:17.040 --> 21:24.360 And yes, for little towns, the administration 21:24.360 --> 21:27.440 is cannot give them solution. 21:27.440 --> 21:30.480 It's forbidden, is in the law. 21:30.480 --> 21:34.800 But there is another suit, a little sister, 21:34.800 --> 21:40.520 but is the suite territorial. 21:40.520 --> 21:42.960 And it's a lower-end administration. 21:42.960 --> 21:45.840 We are using the same application. 21:45.840 --> 21:51.480 We are contributing with us to develop these applications. 21:51.480 --> 21:58.600 And they are allowed to give solutions to small towns. 21:58.600 --> 22:07.000 I've been on it on, with less than 3,000 people, 22:07.000 --> 22:09.400 something like this. 22:09.400 --> 22:14.200 So for them, there is a solution called the M.C.T. 22:14.200 --> 22:17.520 the suite territorial. 22:17.520 --> 22:23.600 It's mission, give by the security agency, 22:23.600 --> 22:25.920 by the French security agency, 22:25.920 --> 22:28.520 because they don't have domain name, 22:28.520 --> 22:37.240 they still have email from Ford and Tannet Prolader, 22:37.240 --> 22:38.240 etc. 22:38.240 --> 22:41.520 So thank you for the question. 22:41.520 --> 22:43.240 Are there more questions from the room? 22:49.240 --> 22:51.040 Thank you for the talk. 22:51.040 --> 22:53.040 Very interesting project. 22:53.120 --> 22:55.480 I have actually a few questions. 22:55.480 --> 22:59.440 One is, if this thought of as for self-hosting, 22:59.440 --> 23:05.360 or like a gas application, so for governments 23:05.360 --> 23:07.920 to provide to their public servants, 23:07.920 --> 23:11.720 or like a city, or for self-hosting, 23:11.720 --> 23:17.120 then in Germany, there's a similar project called Open Desk. 23:17.120 --> 23:19.560 And they have a different approach. 23:19.560 --> 23:24.560 I think that the open source software 23:24.560 --> 23:27.160 that they include, they don't wrap it. 23:27.160 --> 23:32.160 They just, well, each starts in their own eye frame or something. 23:32.160 --> 23:36.920 Why have they chosen to put your own front end 23:36.920 --> 23:39.800 in front of their beckons? 23:39.800 --> 23:43.760 And the third question is, what do you use as an IRM 23:43.760 --> 23:47.920 of provisioning the users into the many different applications? 23:47.920 --> 23:52.920 So the first question is about, I don't remember. 23:55.800 --> 23:58.480 But self-hosting, yes. 23:58.480 --> 24:03.480 So we provide a lot of things to help organizations 24:06.760 --> 24:11.760 to self-host, they are on dogs, they are on dry, 24:11.760 --> 24:12.600 etc. 24:12.600 --> 24:16.920 But it's not the role of the French government 24:16.920 --> 24:20.920 to do this for private companies, et cetera. 24:20.920 --> 24:26.200 So here, as an open source project, 24:26.200 --> 24:31.200 you can, yes, you can host yourself the application. 24:32.560 --> 24:34.720 I know there are community projects, 24:34.720 --> 24:39.560 one is made by a unit host. 24:39.560 --> 24:44.560 They provide, I don't know what is behind, 24:44.880 --> 24:48.800 but a way to deploy this vis-application 24:48.800 --> 24:51.680 dogs on a UNO host. 24:52.680 --> 24:53.680 Is this a good one? 24:53.680 --> 24:56.960 What's the integration with Open Desk? 24:56.960 --> 24:57.800 Is there a good question? 24:57.800 --> 25:01.600 Why do you grab or replace the front ends 25:01.600 --> 25:03.080 and only do the second? 25:03.080 --> 25:05.160 Is there a problem with the front ends of the second? 25:05.160 --> 25:10.160 So Open Desk is using dogs, yes, they are using dogs. 25:10.160 --> 25:13.160 They are using them in the bus. 25:13.160 --> 25:21.160 I varies Open Desk and another one from Germany. 25:21.160 --> 25:26.160 So the one used by Zendis is using dogs. 25:26.160 --> 25:32.160 So you can integrate it in our project. 25:32.160 --> 25:37.160 For now, the limit is the interoperability. 25:37.160 --> 25:42.160 Overlooking on this topic. 25:45.160 --> 25:55.160 So Zendis in Germany is using dogs in their collaborative solution. 25:55.160 --> 25:59.160 So you should talk with them to know how we are doing it. 25:59.160 --> 26:04.160 We are discussing about dogs itself, but not the integration. 26:05.160 --> 26:07.160 And the fat question? 26:07.160 --> 26:10.160 Provisional of users. 26:10.160 --> 26:12.160 I don't sure. 26:12.160 --> 26:20.160 I understand the question, but every application is a passwordless. 26:20.160 --> 26:26.160 Everything is delegated to an IDC provider. 26:26.160 --> 26:30.160 We don't manage user inside the application. 26:30.160 --> 26:32.160 This is not something. 26:32.160 --> 26:37.160 We don't know because the civil servants will arrive in the application. 26:37.160 --> 26:44.160 We click on the button login and we are already ready to see provider. 26:44.160 --> 26:50.160 If you are already identified, we come back to the application, et cetera. 26:50.160 --> 26:53.160 Okay, one last question here. 26:53.160 --> 27:03.160 First, thank you. 27:03.160 --> 27:06.160 A quick question about governance and funding. 27:06.160 --> 27:12.160 First, do you get enough money in your opinion compared to the ambition? 27:12.160 --> 27:18.160 It's really, really big ambition to do that. 27:18.160 --> 27:25.160 Also, who are the main maintainers? 27:25.160 --> 27:30.160 Is it directly the French government or could pass that work for the French government? 27:30.160 --> 27:32.160 How does it work? 27:32.160 --> 27:34.160 If you want to join, how does it work? 27:34.160 --> 27:37.160 Okay, so the question. 27:37.160 --> 27:46.160 There is a part about fundraising and the other part of who is maintaining the project. 27:46.160 --> 27:51.160 So do we have enough money? The answer is no. 27:51.160 --> 27:59.160 But things are moving in the good way. 27:59.160 --> 28:10.160 For example, we have three applications that are recognized as digital public goods. 28:10.160 --> 28:17.160 But the United Nations, so we can hope some found this way. 28:17.160 --> 28:25.160 Also, the Prime Minister can take the decision to say and eat it this week. 28:25.160 --> 28:33.160 In 2007, nobody can use an administration team's room. 28:33.160 --> 28:38.160 You will have to use a video, our solution. 28:38.160 --> 28:44.160 So we will have a money for this. 28:44.160 --> 28:49.160 Also, over each ministry is independent. 28:49.160 --> 28:52.160 They can choose the solution. 28:52.160 --> 28:57.160 More and more, they are switching to last week. 28:57.160 --> 29:05.160 And when we do the switch, they have money because they have no license to pay anymore. 29:05.160 --> 29:11.160 So they are giving us part of this money. 29:11.160 --> 29:17.160 And they participate with us to write the roadmap. 29:17.160 --> 29:24.160 We put a bit of the roadmap, what we need, etc. 29:24.160 --> 29:29.160 And for the maintenance. 29:29.160 --> 29:40.160 So mostly, it's people inside the denim, inside the French digital agency. 29:40.160 --> 29:48.160 But we are acting more and more to do all of this project. 29:48.160 --> 29:58.160 Digital comments, this is why we went to see the United Nations saying, 29:58.160 --> 30:08.160 OK, I think we think that people outside the administration should take care of this project. 30:08.160 --> 30:11.160 We have external contributors. 30:11.160 --> 30:22.160 We are also companies that are building projects around last week. 30:22.160 --> 30:27.160 So there was a talk with Saffton Moon about a project last week. 30:27.160 --> 30:29.160 Here at first day. 30:29.160 --> 30:33.160 And they are using most of the application. 30:33.160 --> 30:37.160 We are developing and in the business. 30:37.160 --> 30:50.160 We plan to reverse to give 10% of what they own in money or in time to participate to project. 30:50.160 --> 30:52.160 And they are already doing this. 30:52.160 --> 30:58.160 So the more people we use outside the administration last week project, 30:58.160 --> 31:02.160 the more people we can have to contribute. 31:02.160 --> 31:13.160 And we hope at the end, but this can be an independent organization managing the project. 31:13.160 --> 31:16.160 Thank you, Manuel, for your talk. 31:16.160 --> 31:18.160 We will now start. 31:18.160 --> 31:21.160 Thank you.